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Farmen Invitational 3 -  
7. - 9. July 2006
CHAT-LOG from closed room

Chatlogg for Bridge Base Online sesjon for Vugraph117 starter ved: Sat Jul 08 12:06:38 2006

Walddk2 (Kringkasting): Back in Norway now
HedyG: ok!! we have take-off!
HedyG: welcome to the Artic:)
Walddk4: Good afternoon and welcome to Hennes in Norway for the annual Farmen Invitational Teams. 2 matches of 20 boards today; this is match 1, 1st half
Walddk4: Your commentators are Hedy Grey, Switzerland, Jos Jacobs, Netherlands, and Eamon Galligan, Ireland. I am Roland Wald from Denmark
Walddk4: We are 300 km (190 miles) north of the Arctic Circle where the sun is shining 24 hours a day from May to August, and where it's dark as coal in December and January
Walddk4: http://www.nordpol.no/farmen3.htm is the link to the very impressive web site with lots of useful info (take a special look at the delicious menus served)
Vugraph117: Hi all, we re ready to start
Walddk4: http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm for live pictures with automatic updates every minute
Walddk4: Our operator is Sigve, welcome to you too
HedyG: incredible website:) really makes you wish you were there
Vugraph117: We had to restart, a little behind schedule
HedyG: hi Sigve:)
JosJ: good morning again Hedy
Vugraph117: Tommy says "hello roland" :-)
JosJ: hi Sigve, Roland
HedyG: and Jos:)))))
Walddk4: and welcome Eamon
bgood10: om mulig si hei til trond H fra bjarne Mo i rana
HedyG: hi Eamon:)
JosJ: hi Eamon too :-))
eamongall: good morning Hedy or maybe its afternoon in Swit
HedyG: just in between:)
->bgood10: klart det :-)
bgood10: takk:)
JosJ: same here but to me it feels like morning
HedyG: there is an onsite webcam at: http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm
HedyG: we came too late for the moose dinner:(
JosJ: no more moose left?
HedyG: today wild salmon and seafood
eamongall: I see a banana , an orange ,a chess set and cupboard full of bottles
Vugraph117: u shd have been here, uncle wirkola making dinner last night:-)
JosJ: not bad at all :-))
HedyG: watch the bottles! the seem to disappear:)
HedyG: was it a wonderful meal?
JosJ: yes I remember that from last time we were here...
Walddk4: And you all know why Trond Hegrand's nickname is Wirkola, right?
Vugraph117: wirkola was a fA
eamongall: and a smoker too
HedyG: he believes in verrrrr yfast arrival?
Walddk4: A famous Norwegian ski jumper
Vugraph117: wirkola was a famous ski-jumper some 30-40 years ago
Walddk4: This Wirkola jumps to what he thinks is the right contract every time, hence the nickname Wirkola
HedyG: :))
HedyG: the players we see are NOT the ones at this table
Vugraph117: here we go:-)
eamongall: so in a moment we will see 4!Hs .. jumped too
JosJ: only 1 down is very good for NS but 4!S might go down on entry problems
HedyG: voila!
Vugraph117: fastest bidding i ve ever seen:-)
JosJ: after the X declarer should know how to handle the hand
HedyG: maybe better not to leave the double when you are 6-5?
eamongall: may know how to handle but may not be in his control
Walddk4: Our host is "The Farmer", John-Eldar Pedersen (JohnP), one of our regular and most faithful commentators. This is the 3rd edition of the Farmen Invitational Teams
HedyG: !s lead definitely better
JosJ: Q.E.D.
JosJ: what would have been wrong with a low heart lead btw?
HedyG: nothing:)
JosJ: :-))
HedyG: Wirkola's jump didnt stop Stian:)
eamongall: EW to try 3Nt here I reckon
JosJ: 2!H on the 6-5 did not work out too well
eamongall: looks like kettle
HedyG: sry i was reading the 7!d law:)))))
HedyG: you find it on the top right of the homepage
JosJ: most important law in Scandinavia
HedyG: indeed
HedyG: but this is the 1st time i see it all written out and am very grateful for it
HedyG: strange to start with declarers 4 card suit
HedyG: worked well though cause gives nothing
Vugraph117: wirkola wanted a d lead, but doesnt beat it anyway
HedyG: no
HedyG: still 10 tricks
HedyG: bid in E over 1nt?
eamongall: I was thinking a quiet 1NT by NS but its not so quiet
JosJ: at pairs, 50 would be good for NS again
JosJ: -50
HedyG: hate to pass
eamongall: !Hs goes quite well
JosJ: what was 2!D?
HedyG: !c better
HedyG: majors
HedyG: and S passed all along
HedyG: so we dont double partials that might make at imps
JosJ: now he gets the entry he was looking for
HedyG: 1nt or X?
JosJ: ah, a stolen 3nt in the OR
HedyG: thats why 1nt might be better to start with?
eamongall: stolen ones gain imps too
JosJ: on the same auction I expect another push
HedyG: will Stian find the switch?..no
eamongall: had to find !SA first
HedyG: lol Eamon
JosJ: what would happen if East doubles 3nt?
Walddk4: We are 300 km (190 miles) north of the Arctic Circle where the sun is shining 24 hours a day from May to August, and where it's dark as coal in December and January
Walddk4: http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm for live pictures with automatic updates every minute
HedyG: the webcam shows the open room
HedyG: the one with the bottles..
eamongall: bottles got hidden behind a chair now
HedyG: :)
Vugraph117: lucky one for NS, N th he had showed about 15 hcp, S thought it was 18-19 :-)
HedyG: :))
eamongall: 20-20 hcp here
eamongall: !Hs versus !Ds
JosJ: so !H win
eamongall: so wirkola should declare
eamongall: but he would be better losing as entries opposite !C ruffs = bad
JosJ: wd as 2!H can go down a lot already
Vugraph117: wirkola looking at the cards, happy he didnt bid 2 H :-)
HedyG: :)
eamongall: major suit game
HedyG: 4 either major
JosJ: probably easy hand
eamongall: just find a !SQ trumps or not
HedyG: Wirkola should get there quickly:)
JosJ: N can open 2NT I assume
JosJ: does he use transfer jumps too? :-))
HedyG: heavy 2nt?
HedyG: 22 and a good 5 card suit..
JosJ: or 2!C/!D and 2NT rebid depending on ranges
HedyG: 4!h definitely better
Vugraph117: 4s -1 in open, declrer finessed in spades
JosJ: -1 in OR so a great chance for the Skilled here
HedyG: yes, this is their chance to come back
JosJ: not my choice, this 2!S in 2nd pos.
HedyG: 2nt looks like ogust
HedyG: not coming back:)
JosJ: and it punishes itself
Vugraph117: NS bidding misunderstanding
HedyG: he showed a good suit and bad hand?
Vugraph117: 3d explained as singleton
JosJ: what was 3!D?
JosJ: aha ty
HedyG: oh!
Vugraph117: S intended as bad cards
HedyG: still needs to find Q!s
JosJ: he will
JosJ: :-))
JosJ: strange push
Vugraph117: high voices here now :-)
HedyG: :((
Vugraph117: with a smile :-)
HedyG: oh! thats better!
Vugraph117: they have an agreement now
Vugraph117: :-)
HedyG: i think they basically go up there for a good weekend, bridge might be an excuse..
HedyG: and we would ALL like to go!!
JosJ: sure, it's very beautiful up there
HedyG: Sigve , what is the mosquito situation?
Vugraph117: dense
HedyG: i was afraid of that:(
HedyG: hoping for the Q!c to drop..
HedyG: another push
Vugraph117: but raining now so the mosquito is hiding...for the moment:-)
HedyG: lol
HedyG: but they love it after the rain!!!
HedyG: i havent worked out yet why these northern areas have so many mosquitos
HedyG: the fir trees maybe?
Vugraph117: lots of swamp here, breeding place for the mosquitos
HedyG: aha!
HedyG: and for moose:)
Vugraph117: yes:-)
HedyG: :))
->HedyG: taking some time, waiting for cards from open
HedyG: we are waiting for the cards from the other room
HedyG: ty:))
->HedyG: np :-)
eamongall: 24 hours sunshine is useful
HedyG: should still lead his suit!
JosJ: North's X led S astray
HedyG: Dag did!
HedyG: still has a chance
HedyG: but no more entry to make the !cs
HedyG: looks like more imps to the Farmers
HedyG: when you mkae the J!c why would you switch to !h?
HedyG: make*
JosJ: declarer's suit...
HedyG: so? is pd crazy to play !c?
JosJ: probably not...
HedyG: he can disc 2!ss
HedyG: oh noooooooo
HedyG: with a !H throwin he could have made 1 more
JosJ: 7 is more than enough, Hedy!
HedyG: yes, but no problem to try for 1 more
JosJ: lol
HedyG: an imp is an imp
JosJ: yes it is
JosJ: and arctic imps are something special anyway
HedyG: :)))))))
JosJ: this will be 800 at least if passed
JosJ: a wheel is coming off...
HedyG: no way to stop in 5nt
HedyG: ah now he could have!
HedyG: A and 3X !H
HedyG: his only chance
HedyG: :((
JosJ: 2 natural trump tricks to lose in 5!S so the match will be a bit closer now, finally
HedyG: he better play the !hs now!!
Vugraph117: tommy doesnt seem to be to happy about this development
HedyG: oh yes he is !s:(
HedyG: why didnt he bid 5nt over 5!s?
HedyG: surely that was for playing
HedyG: mind you, over 3!s Stian should have bid 3nt for sure!
JosJ: oh yes...
HedyG: last bd for now
eamongall: a kibitzer is jealous ... he has spotted the cupboard with all the bottles
JosJ: look here, a slam...
HedyG: our thanks to Sigve Smørdal, our talented operator:) great job!
bgood10: noen spesiell grunn til at trond hegrand kaller seg wirkola???han er jo ikke særlig atletisk:)
Vugraph117: blush
HedyG: to my excellent co-commentators Eamon Galligan and Jos Jacobs
HedyG: Finally thanks to John-Eldar Pedersen("The Farmer"),our host,who has also been instrumental in organising this broadcast
HedyG: we will be back in 20 minutes with the 2nd half of this match
->bgood10: han HOPP melder mye :-)
bgood10: åja,,,he he,,,sant nok
Walddk4: I 2. halvleg får vi danske og norske kommentarer i lukket rum, engelsk i åbent
star4: hei sigve, spennende!!!
->bgood10: som du ser :-)
HedyG: lukket=closed
JosJ: and a Wirkola jump
bgood10: jada,,kjenner han fra nordreisa
JosJ: to end the session
HedyG: :)
Walddk4: He landed on his feet, just like the real Wirkola used to do
Walddk4: 97.4 points for style
HedyG: jump was a bit short cause !ds are 2 2
Walddk4: 108½ meters
HedyG: lol
HedyG: ty all for joining, hope you enjoyed the show
JosJ: but it costs arctic imps again
HedyG: now he will be upset
Walddk4: See you soon, bye for now
HedyG: see you all in 16 minutes and 23 secs
HedyG: bye
JosJ: hurry!
eamongall: http://www.nordpol.no/farmen3.htm
JosJ: bye all cu later
HedyG: ty:))
HedyG: and !H to John:))))
Walddk4: We will keep the tables open until the 2nd half begins in about 15 minutes
Walddk4: Der bliver skandinaviske kommentarer i dette rum
Walddk4: English in the open
Walddk4: Skandinaviske kommentatorer bliver Kåre Kristiansen, Kenneth Syversen, John Vaage, Norge, og Povl Sommer, Danmark. Jeg hedder Roland Wald og er også fra Danmark
jvage: Almost round the clock...
Walddk4: er det norsk?
jvage: Sorry, a private chat missent......
Walddk4: Der sidder en stor mand foran barskabet nu
Walddk4: Han forsøger at skjule hvor lidt der er tilbage, formoder jeg
Walddk4: Velkommen til Povl Sommer
sommer: hej
Walddk4: http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm
Walddk4: Vi starter igen om 6 minutter

Walddk4 (Kringkasting): Our live vugraph broadcast from Norway restarting in 2 minutes. Open room for English, closed room for mixed Scandinavian commentary
Walddk4: Vi venter på, at åbent rum skal blive færdig med spil 11
Walddk4: Det er egentlig ganske godt, for så får vi resultater i hele halvlegen
jvage: På webcam ser dere nå Binge (Bjørn Inge Hansen) midt i bildet, med Trond "Wirkola" med ryggen mot kamera
Walddk4: Vores operatør er Sigve. Velkommen tilbage til dig også
Walddk4: Så kører vi ....
Vugraph117: hi all, welcome to Arctic Bridge Circus:-)
Walddk4: Er der overhovedet nogen, der har en åbning her?
Walddk4: norsk
->Walddk4: ooops :-)
sommer: nord har da en 3. håndsåbning 1!S
jvage: Kan i teorien bli en rundpass, men disse folka åpner tynt, så det er vel tvilsomt
Walddk4: Det have hand i hvert fald i åbent rum
sommer: det vil de fleste gøre
sommer: ...ville...
Walddk4: pas Tommy
jvage: Redaktørens (Tommy) hånd er langt unna 15 regelen!
Walddk4: På den anden side: han er vel ikke taget helt fra Oslo til nord for POlarcirklen for at melde pas!?
jvage: Spar + hp 15 i 4. hånd for å åpne
sommer: det var jo fint nok ..tæt på 8 stik
Walddk4: Vi er 300 km nord for Polarcirklen
Vugraph117: 2 rut var en multivariant
Walddk4: Der hvor der spadserer isbjørne i gaderne
Vugraph117: 5 kort og svak slik meld gikk nå
sommer: skulle han gå en ned, er der 3 imp i trøstpræmie:)
jvage: 2ru var pose og sekk, både ruter og Multi!
Walddk4: Velkommen til Kenneth Syversen fra Norge
Cywerz: Hei
jvage: Hei, Kenneth!
sommer: ja, vi er alle enige om, at Tommys åbning var "bluff";))
jvage: Ser ut som han får det hjem nå
Walddk4: Vi der kender ham er ikke særligt overraskede
sommer: ja
Walddk4: Tommy er en munter fyr
Walddk4: Hvad det så end hedder på norsk
sommer: modspillet skal ikke kikse meget, før 8 stik var i hus
sommer: Dortmunter
jvage: Også meldingene hans virker ofte bekymringsløse (helt til det scores.....)
jvage: Han er kjent for en optimistisk meldestil
Vugraph117: tommy ville åpne høyt for å sperre bort motpartens sparfarge
Cywerz: en taktikk jeg liker, selv om det vanligvis blir feil når jeg gjør det
jvage: Ikke akkurat maks for Michaels i ugunstig!
sommer: så giver vi "stilen hans" fortjenesten på 7 imp ...
Cywerz: det høres feil ut å ta ut 2ru
Cywerz: iallfall før det blir doblet
sommer: !C10?
Cywerz: spiller de svenske?
Vugraph117: jepp
sommer: spiller de ikke "norske"?
Vugraph117: jo, sikkert tommy som falcecarder
Cywerz: fin pos å falsecarde i
jvage: men der forsvant et stikk for forsvaret
Cywerz: noen som kjenner til promillenivået på farmen?
sommer: hahaha
Vugraph117: ingen som drikker her...
Cywerz: hmm, 12 karer samlet til kort og moro, og ingen som tar en lille en?
Vugraph117: nei nei :-)
Walddk4: De drikker kun skummetmælk, har jeg hørt
ivarst: hei sigve lenge siden
sommer: ..ko light? næsten det samme som du, Roland
Walddk4: Velkommen til Magnus Göransson fra Sverige
liraren: hejsan
jvage: Slapp billig unna, blir 500 nå
sommer: hei Magnus
Walddk4: Så nu har vi DaSweNorgian i stedet for DaNorgian
->ivarst: hei der :-)
jvage: Hei Magnus
Cywerz: Heisann
liraren: blev för mycket gin och tonic i g
liraren: igår så jag kanske inte tillför så mycket
sommer: nu blir det både sjov, moro ock kul!!!
Walddk4: Så er du kommet til det rigtige sted
Cywerz: hva ble resultatet i går?
Walddk4: Spillerne her fik sikkert også rigeligt i aftes
Cywerz: unnskyld Sigve, skulle ikke spurt
Vugraph117: hehe :-)
liraren: bra gjort av syd att passa på 1NT i öppna
jvage: I Norge (i motsetning til USA og en del andre steder) er det standard å åpne 1!c (ikke 1!d) i nord
jvage: Syd er i grenseland til å melde videre over 1NT
Cywerz: et fint spill for overføringer etter 1!c
sommer: ja, man kan let komme for højt her
sommer: invit med !H
jvage: Passet 1NT på andre bordet
Vugraph117: invitt ja
liraren: antar att NS spelar XY-nt och att syd har visat en invit med 5!h
->liraren: jepp
sommer: det ser ikke oplagt ud at få overstik i 1NT - den her gir i hvert fald ikke overstik!
Cywerz: med overføringer er det mye enklere å nedvurdere hånda i Syd etter 1!c-1!d-1NT
jvage: Et argument for pass er at Nord ville støttet med 3 kort ofte når det er et stikk mer i !h
Cywerz: en liten putt
Walddk4: Det glæder mig at se, at vi har en tilskuer fra Fransk Polynesien. Jeg vidste ikke, at man forstår de skandinaviske sprog der
sommer: ja, og syds mellemkort i !H ser ikke gode ud .. !SJxxx er også ca 0 hcp
sommer: ..det går jo fint det her...
sommer: 8 stik og "kedeligt" ligespil...
jvage: Ble ikke helt rett å stjele makkers sparstikk nei
sommer: her er slem i begge Ma
jvage: Bør vel være meldbar også
sommer: .. skulle vel ikke være så svær at melde?
liraren: svårt att få koll på att man har både !h och !s Q
sommer: ...nu ser man da dobbletfitten hurtigt
sommer: hmm .. !HQ ordner sig;)
Cywerz: billige imp for bøndene
sommer: i åbent rum doblede S 5!D, som "forskrækkede" W
jvage: Som en tilskuer nevner var det et originalt stilbrudd av Wirkola å ikke hoppe rett i slem, og det kostet aktuelt en del IMP
liraren: rent matematiskt är det bättre att ha 5!c=1 eller 4 ess och 5!d som 0 eller 3 för man har oftare 1 ess än 0 när partnern frågar
sommer: ...man kan vel også "ordne" det, så E spørger om esser?
sommer: helt enig Magnus
Cywerz: ja, med den ekstravarianten at med !c som trumf, brukes 0/3 - 1/4
Walddk4: Så er kickback bedre
sommer: .. eller minor efter esser .
sommer: "alle" i DK, bruger 1430 i øvrigt...
liraren: en bra !h utgång som går att beta
jvage: Mener bestemt at den teoretiske fordelen med en del av dette oppveies av faren for misforståelser, KISS (keep it simple, stupid)er undervurdert!
Walddk4: Et fantom-offer
Cywerz: derfor jeg holder meg til relepresisjon...
Walddk4: Jeg forstår ikke Tommy's 5!D
Walddk4: Han har da masser af modspil
jvage: 4!h var bet siden begge de kritiske finessene sprekker
Cywerz: det var ikke noe stilbrudd iallfall
sommer: 4!H er let at sætte, ja ..
sommer: koster nu 4 imp ud i stedet for 6 ind
jvage: Han mente kanskje at 5!d så ut som en ralativt billig forsikring i gunstig
Cywerz: det koster ikke mer enn 4 imp, en billig forsikring hvis ruteren hadde vært 3-1
sommer: rigtig pointe ..og !HA kunne vel være sydpå også?
Cywerz: med state of the match er det vel rett å ikke gi motparten muligheten for en stor opphenting
sommer: "state of the match" fortæller ham dog ikke noget her
liraren: kaffedags en tråkig likabricka
Cywerz: nei, er vel rett det, Tommy vet ikke at de ligger så langt foran
Vugraph117: var helt jevnt ved halvtid, 22-19
sommer: nej, det ser vel ganske lige ud? med slem i spil 14
liraren: detta är precis dom brickor som EW vill ha nu
sommer: .."ikke", mener du?
liraren: jo EW leder ju
sommer: jaja ..forstår nu
liraren: när man känner att man leder i en match så älskar man att spela 3NT=430
sommer: ..ja, des jævnere hænder, jo bedre
jvage: Kommer nok til å spille det ut, har noen sjanser for 12 (!d3-3 eller en (pølse)skvis)
jvage: Men det prøvde han ikke på!
valerieh: expert @valerieh
jvage: måtte spille nøyaktig for å få 11, min kommentar var litt malplassert!
sommer: ..vi må ha 3 feil pr. 10 spil ..så du har 2 tilgode
jvage: :-)
sommer: venter på spil 17 ..kommer med ordonnans fra åbent rum ...nu!
liraren: men samtidigt är det väl så att 7 av 10 fel som partnern gör i bridge kan man som en god partner hjälpa honom/henne med så det är väl vårat fel att du kommenterade fel
sommer: wow ..4!S gik ned .. det kræver vist meget præcist modspil
jvage: Eller en ikke helt nøyaktig spilleføring!
liraren: nja räcker väl med att spela ut trumf så ligger väl försvaret bra till
jvage: Og ny trumf inne på !dA
Cywerz: det kalles revoke
liraren: det blir svårt
jvage: !dK da......
Cywerz: eller kanskje ikke, tror ikke det har noe navn'
sommer: jaja, spilfører kan vel "stritte imod"?
liraren: haha
jvage: Nå har jeg brukt 2 av 3......
sommer: ;)
sommer: tæl ikke mine!!!
sommer: ..så blir jeg fyret
Cywerz: jeg lovet ny verdensrekord i feilanalyser i går, fra min side...
sommer: ..og jeg kan ikke undvære min løn fra BBO
jvage: Utspillet var forresten ruter ved andre bordet, så det må ha stokket seg litt for spillefører
sommer: allerede nu, vil jeg påstå, Tommy klarer sig:)
liraren: det var nog det sämsta utspelet man kunde hitta på den här given
Cywerz: da har vel bøndene vunnet kampen
sommer: ja
sommer: ja, det ser endda klart ud
Cywerz: Tommy kan jo finne på en tryllekunst
sommer: 10-11 imp her hjælper til en storseir endda
liraren: ?? nu blir det väl spännande igen
sommer: hovsa...
jvage: Der forsvant vel overstikket, men bør fortsatt klare seg
sommer: nu er han på vej ned
jvage: spar nå
sommer: ja, !S er nok
liraren: han klarar sig ändå
Cywerz: liten kløver er eneste betesjanse
sommer: !S sætter vel?
liraren: nej då får han 2 spel
liraren: han hade 8 och får för !s K och !h K
jvage: Ja takstikk får han vel for
sommer: .. var det 4 feil?
jvage: Minst, nå risikerer vi lønnstrekk
liraren: japp nu får du böta 5 coke till Roland eller om han drar det på din lön direkt
sommer: hmm
jvage: Her står fort utgang begge veier (4!h og 5!d)
sommer: mere spænding her .. "ofret" i 5!D har vel vinderchancer?vil
jvage: Går nok normalt bet i 5!d, men vi får se
liraren: fel igen va 5 ruter står inte man tappar väl alltid 1!s och 2!d
sommer: 5!D er ikke "oplagt" ..mangler vel en indgang på E's hånd til "oplagt"?
jvage: Ja, trenger ruter eller sparutspill
sommer: 2NT placerer dog !DJ:))
jvage: og selv da er det tungt
liraren: men du kommer fortfarande inte in till E´s hand
sommer: det er rigtigt
jvage: Bortsett fra at han har for få stikk og motparten for mange er dette en lovende kontrakt
sommer: haha
Cywerz: har vært i dårligere kontrakter, det er sant
sommer: ..ikke ofte, håber jeg
sommer: avav
Cywerz: stikk er oppskrytt
sommer: blir det 7?
jvage: 2NT sto, men desverre for forsvaret......
jvage: Syds 2NT var vel for spill, sjelden lurt å foreslå 3NT andre veien da
Cywerz: 3NT var et merkelig valg, med stjeleverdi i !s og 3 kort trumf, skulle man tro at !d pekte seg ut som rett farge
sommer: mere spænding .. den her ser IKKE oplagt ud!
Vugraph117: kan jevne ut kampen
sommer: at komme i 6NT og vinde den i zonen, ser helt umuligt ud som kombination
liraren: oj en turlig slam hänger på att man gör rätt i !h
sommer: ..ja, og vil man ikke spille op mod !HQ?
liraren: det blev väldigt enkelt i öppna rummet för dom spelade ut !h K
jvage: Ser ut som singel hjK kom ut, selv jeg kunne kanskje gjettet rett da!
sommer: ..i åbent rum var udspillet .....!HK!!
Cywerz: ser ut som det blir motspill
jvage: Doblingen må jo være opplysende
sommer: 3NT ..alle pas
Cywerz: hvis den er opplysende, må den vel vise !s da?
Cywerz: 2!s viser jo !h
sommer: bringer differencen ned på 10 imp
Vugraph117: nice comeback..
jvage: De spiller vel lebensohl, så om 4NT var kvantitativt kunne Tommy meldt det
sommer: 2!S viser "!H" :))
jvage: Men Tommy spiller vel med 4NT som alltid blackwood
Cywerz: som en tilskuer presiserer; dobling bør vise !s eller sterke kort
sommer: alene ude er det vist bedst af W at melde 3!H ... (kunne vel også bruge Lebensohl med dårlige kort?)
liraren: vad gör man då med fördelningen 1-4-4-4 och ca 14Hcp
sommer: ..holder tungen lige i munden ..og gør det rigtige ..nemt!!
Cywerz: pass er en god melding når man ikke har noe å vise
Walddk4: Har Tommy passkilte in sin meldeboks?
sommer: .. ja, 1 enkelt ...men det er overhovedet ikke slidt!!
Walddk4: tror han har ett, som han sitter paa , siger en tilskuer
Cywerz: mer spenning
eamongall: they have the beer out now that bridge is over
sommer: uha ..meget interressant 6!S her ... kan vel vinde double dummy? specielt, hvis S dobler?
liraren: en bra slam som gick en oturlig (och dubblad bet) i öppna rummet
Cywerz: det går kanskje an å spille hjem 6!h?
jvage: Dette er siste spillet i denne sesjonen
sommer: 6!H er god, som vi ser, men kan man ikke klare sig i 6!SX også?
Vugraph117: espen er svært fornøyd m at han klarte å holde sparknekt i forrige spill :-)
jvage: Benytter sjansen til å takke mine glimrende medkommentatorer, Povl, Kenneth og Magnus (+Roland som vanlig)
Cywerz: vi takker tilbake
liraren: tack det samma
sommer: så vidt, jeg kan se, kan S blive grumme slutspillet
Walddk4: i lige måde
jvage: Samt operatør Sigve Smørdal, som i motsetning til både oss og spillerne ikke har lagt et feil kort
sommer: selvtak
Vugraph117: hehe, takk
eamongall: so if the skilled had avoided the doomed slam it would be close to a draw
jvage: Neste sesjon starter etter en bedre middag, om ca. 3 timer
Cywerz: auda Tommy
Vugraph117: kan bli svært jevnt til slutt:-)
Walddk4: En middag, der var 3 timer. Den bliver våd!
Walddk4: varer
liraren: OJ
sommer: auau ..det blir måske nu spænding i kampen? mindst 2 ned nu til 7 imp ..måske 3
Cywerz: da ble det en stor seier
sommer: ...men !SK ud??
Walddk4: Laks, rensdyr, isbjørne, elg og brændevin
Cywerz: masse brennevin
sommer: det udspil bliver usædvanlig dyrt!
Cywerz: 6NT står vel faktisk alltid, uansett utspill
Walddk4: Det gør ikke noget, de spiller ikke om penge
Cywerz: men de spiller vel om ære? og det er mye viktigere!
sommer: vel næppe med 2 !Stabere?
jvage: Bordet er dødt, alltid minst 2 tapere
Cywerz: kan spille på ruteren
liraren: med valfritt utspel förutom !s är det bet till och med !d K är betande
sommer: han har de sidste 10 stik ud af 9!!
Vugraph117: espen er svært rystet
Cywerz: nei, kommer ikke inn i bordet
Walddk4: Nu har Tommy et stik for meget. Giver det ekstra?
Walddk4: Nej, kun 1680
Walddk4: Tak allesammen, vi ses kl. 18

Cywerz: sees!
Walddk4: Farvel for nu
liraren: ok hej och tack
hauk69: du får trøste mitt kjære søskenbarn da.........
sommer: farvel
Cywerz: takk også til alle tilskuerne som stiller opp
jvage: Takk for nå
Cywerz: slik at de ser alle tabbene våre
hauk69: ikke greit å forsøke å leve opp til storspilleran i INDRE salten.............
sommer: ..and tnx to all the pupils in "Scandinavian"
Cywerz: sikkert morsomt å følge med på alle feilanalysene :)
sommer: absolut ...
Vugraph117: takk alle, vi lukker nå:-)
Cywerz: the next Scandinavian-101 class will start in 3 hours
sommer: tak -Sigve
Cywerz: takk for nå

sommer: SAS .. mener SES!

Chatlogg for Bridge Base Online sesjon for Vugraph117 starter ved: Sat Jul 08 17:57:04 2006


Walddk4 (Kringkasting): Closed room from Norway also up now
Walddk4: Good evening and welcome back to Hennes in Norway for the annual Farmen Invitational Teams. 2 matches of 20 boards today; this is match 2, 1st half
Walddk4: Your commentators are Hedy Grey, Switzerland, Shirley Ybarra, USA, Jos Jacobs, Netherlands, and Kenneth Syversen, Norway. I am Roland Wald from Denmark
HedyG: good evening:)
sybarra: hi all
Walddk4: Our operator is Espen Larsen. Welcome to you too
HedyG: hello Espen:)
JosJ: hello all
Vugraph117: hello
HedyG: John's wonderful website is : http://www.nordpol.no/farmen3.htm
Vugraph117: I am better at this than playing out:-)
HedyG: dont miss the webcam from the open room on the site
HedyG: lol Espen
HedyG: seems the players arent seated yet
Vugraph117: we are sorry for 5 minute delay first match..
HedyG: and the cabinet is still full of bottles!
HedyG: np:)
JosJ: they will be seated before dark, however
HedyG: rofl
HedyG: so we will wait for..a few months!
JosJ: a week, I guess
Vugraph117: just delay here waiting for first board
HedyG: so they have started in the OR now
Walddk4: Welcome to Kenneth Syversen
Cywerz: Hi everyone!
HedyG: only 1 set of boards so we wait for them to finish the hand
JosJ: hi Kenneth
HedyG: hei Kenneth:)
HedyG: i hope that was right..
JosJ: anyway the intention was :-))
HedyG: sure
HedyG: the arctic are leading after 10 bds i believe
HedyG: ha! somebody has opened the cabinet!
Cywerz: any reports on the alcohol consumption during dinner?
HedyG: Wirkola
Cywerz: there we go
Vugraph117: here we go
HedyG: what now? 2nt, 2!h or 3!d?
Cywerz: 2!h would be gf, I guess
Vugraph117: south is wondering
Cywerz: 2NT most likely
HedyG: he is almost gf:)
Cywerz: 11 and some extras for the good distribution
HedyG: W cant believe that he has to sit and pass:((
Walddk4: Espen, sig til John-Eldar at billederne er uskarpe
HedyG: 2nt was bid in the other room
Walddk4: Han må kunne gøre noget
Cywerz: I couldnt open the web cam page earlier
HedyG: its working fine
HedyG: the picture isnt as clear as it was earlier though
Vugraph117: I have told him.. we will try to fix it
HedyG: !c before !h and endplay in !H
Cywerz: probably due to dinner... no one sees clear anymore up there
HedyG: lol Kenneth
JosJ: yes, nobody would believe them when they said it was too dark
Cywerz: lol
HedyG: lol
Cywerz: I think they have the midnight sun for still some time
JosJ: in the meantime, the quiet partscore is unlikely to trouble the scorers
HedyG: 130
Cywerz: for 0 imps
Cywerz: another push most likely
HedyG: unlucky 6!h
JosJ: maybe someone will find a slam
HedyG: Roland would!!
JosJ: are you reading my mind, Hedy?
HedyG: the picture is fine now
HedyG: yes Jos:))
JosJ: it seems there has not been much movement within the cupboard
Cywerz: a normal auction so far after Norwegian standards
HedyG: he put the bottle back
HedyG: 4!h good bid
Cywerz: at least up to 3!d
HedyG: 4 cards and controls in all suits
Vugraph117: west is thinking
JosJ: wise decision
Cywerz: 4!h was maybe not the standard bid, but it probably shows maximum with 4!h without doubleton
HedyG: indeed
Cywerz: a spectator asks why 4!h would show a balanced hand without doubleton
Cywerz: if you do have a doubleton, you will bid that suit
JosJ: certainly with Ax or Kx
Vugraph117: east meant 4h balanced mininum
HedyG: i play 4!h shows 4 cards and 1st or 2nd round control in all suits
Cywerz: so 2NT was 22-24?
Cywerz: then minimum
HedyG: ty Espen
Vugraph117: yes 2nt is 22-24
Cywerz: but then I would disagree with the bid...
JosJ: ty
Vugraph117: difficult boards in open maybe .. take a while
Cywerz: but of course, your partnership agreements will tell you what to bid
Vugraph117: now ready
JosJ: another slam
HedyG: well, i see a slam
Cywerz: really, _what_ system you play doesnt matter that much, if partner plays the same system...
JosJ: lucky !C position
HedyG: small !c to the J and then J from N
Cywerz: slam can be made, but probably close to another push
HedyG: and J!s dropping too!
JosJ: only 9 tricks at NT looks sub-minimum
HedyG: Geez all hands for Roland!
Cywerz: small !c to J and J from North... !c to 9 I hope...
JosJ: lol, not if W plays the 10 :-))
Cywerz: lol, but then 9 from North anyway afterwards :)
HedyG: i doubt W would duck !c!
Cywerz: with KT he sees he cannot make the right move
JosJ: playing the 10 gives declarer a losing option
HedyG: for 12 tricks you must play J!c 2nd time
Vugraph117: s is thinking
HedyG: same play both rooms
sybarra: we call him John-Eldar :)
Cywerz: John-Eldar will be TD at our festival in the end of July, beginning of August
JosJ: we see now why they only made 9 tricks in OR
Cywerz: hope his analysis of the boards are better then...
HedyG: he was asked to make 9 tricks!
Cywerz: true, but 3 imps are always nice
JosJ: true but an imp is an imp isn't it?
HedyG: i thought small !c to the table was normal play
JosJ: So do I
Cywerz: it is, or am I making another funny analysis?
JosJ: but for that you have to win 1st trick in hand
HedyG: yes!
JosJ: all is OK, Kenneth! :-))
Cywerz: but does that really matter?
Cywerz: (sigh! relief!)
Vugraph117: he thought about intra finess, but also about diamond 5-2
Cywerz: thought I embarrassed myself... again
HedyG: nono! not yet:))
JosJ: 7 more chances
JosJ: :-))
HedyG: lol
Cywerz: I probably get more than one chance per board
JosJ: optimist!
Cywerz: lol
Cywerz: to me, this seems like 1 imp to the warriors
JosJ: 12 tricks is a lot
JosJ: they need a big win to qualify
HedyG: W has no !S to play back when he makes the K!h
HedyG: so N can make 6NT
Cywerz: so I made it...
Cywerz: another push then
Cywerz: what do you think about the negative double with 5!hs?
JosJ: matter of agreement too?
Cywerz: bad suit, so probably ok
HedyG: certainly matter of agreement
Cywerz: of course
JosJ: hand seems strong enough to speak twice
Cywerz: 3!h may be gf
JosJ: likely, yes
HedyG: also you might downgrade those !hs to 4 cards
Cywerz: I agree
JosJ: and possibly miss a good 5-3 fit?
JosJ: even 65432 opposite A87 is an acceptable fit
HedyG: :))
Cywerz: but not 65432 opps 789
JosJ: might be 5-0...
sybarra: rehi, all, sorry had to be away a bit
Cywerz: the main point is, as allways, agreements are needed!
HedyG: but you will never cover all situations
Cywerz: good decisions by EW I think
JosJ: good lead, taken immediately to prevent a spade switch
Vugraph117: blocked heart.. cant get 4 club trichs now
Cywerz: that was a sloppy play, wasnt it?
JosJ: but !HJ was not the best continuation...
HedyG: yes!
Cywerz: he can make 4 !c tricks, need to unblock T
HedyG: would you?
JosJ: very elegant
Vugraph117: yes club finess now.. nice:-
HedyG: and then if with J92 S plays the J under the 2nd !c do you finesse?
JosJ: sure!
HedyG: aha!!!!!!!!!
HedyG: and down!
Cywerz: I do, and congratulate S with defense of the year!
HedyG: i think playing the J in that situation is automatic
JosJ: following the misplay of the year :-))
Vugraph117: dag is thinking
HedyG: did he think the Q!d was a singleton?
HedyG: E could be 4 4 4 1?
JosJ: looks impossible from the bidding...
star4: !c 10 to ace, and small !c to Q, and finess the 9
Vugraph117: no i dont think so
HedyG: and would finesse !d on lead?
HedyG: wouldnt*
Vugraph117: maybe thinkinh DJ block
Vugraph117: only S Q so cna defeat it now
HedyG: wd!
Vugraph117: dag found it great play
HedyG: should try !c first!!
Walddk4: How can it be defeated?
Walddk4: Unblock !C10 and make it
Cywerz: !c are blocked, if not unblock T
Cywerz: but that was easy
sybarra: so there..
Cywerz: great play
Vugraph117: great play from all
Cywerz: well bid, and well played
HedyG: lucky as well:)
JosJ: nice recovery
HedyG: with J9x in !c S would have made his 9
Cywerz: in fact he needs 9 to drop anyway
Cywerz: so unblocking must be the right play
Cywerz: a Tommy-sacrifice again?
Walddk4: yes
Cywerz: are they playing transfers after 1!c?
HedyG: what is 1!H?
Cywerz: doesnt look like it
HedyG: thats not on the system page
HedyG: and never mentioned !s
sybarra: seems to have worked.....look on footnotes
HedyG: John wont be happy
Cywerz: the warriors are fighting for a place in the finals
JosJ: they need a big win
Vugraph117: why bård bid 1 h i dont know yet
Cywerz: NS never found !h, and !EW never found !s lol
sybarra: maybe it was "pulled wrong card" meant to bid 1 sp
Cywerz: he can change that until before partner has bid
Vugraph117: Diamond with heart syndrom---lucky :_)
sybarra: how can he change after bid by N....never heard of that
Cywerz: he can
Cywerz: law 25A
HedyG: lol
JosJ: definitely
HedyG: Farmers Law?
sybarra: sometimes better to just take medicine
sybarra: and not fumble around
Cywerz: it has to be "mechanical error" of course
HedyG: quickly checked, but the players dont have schnapps glasses
JosJ: Kenneth is right on Law 25a, not embarrassing at all
Cywerz: laws I know
sybarra: did they have dinner yet? of just late lunch?
Cywerz: playing and bidding on the other hand
Walddk4: wet lunch
Vugraph117: 4 heart and one diamond when west bid 1h:-)
HedyG: you mean, sry i made a mistake, you can take you pass back opp?
Walddk4: Lots of brännevin
HedyG: oh!
sybarra: then that explains 1 !H
sybarra: :)
JosJ: mistake has to be clear, no change of mind allowed
HedyG: that is a sign of needing glasses! mixing !d and !h is the 1st sign:)
HedyG: never !c and !s
Cywerz: can he make 5!c after that play?
HedyG: shouldnt
Cywerz: N endplayed all the way
HedyG: he isnt
Cywerz: but to late
HedyG: just play A!c and !c
Cywerz: y
Vugraph117: dag is awajke
HedyG: yes he is and wd!
Cywerz: one down, but still a big win
sybarra: we may want to pour some coffee or something here
HedyG: Wirkola taking a nap:)
JosJ: nearly slam again...according to Roland's Law
HedyG: lol
Cywerz: a lot of big hands this segment
Cywerz: lol
JosJ: but W will not take much action
Cywerz: should be another push
HedyG: pass?
HedyG: yes
HedyG: now 4!c by S
Cywerz: maybe the double was what NS needed to make EW misunderstand eachother?
HedyG: they play puppet
Cywerz: with puppet, after 3!d, 4!d is pick a game - I have both majors
HedyG: 11 tricks, no more and no less
Cywerz: 4!c is slaminviting with both
HedyG: except........
JosJ: !DJ now
HedyG: yes lol
Cywerz: the brilliant !dJ
Cywerz: lol
HedyG: lol
JosJ: did we influence the defence there?
HedyG: reaction to the small !c
Cywerz: I think I need to have a talk to my TD
HedyG: N should have played a middle card
Cywerz: maybe we shouldnt blame S, N could play something else too
Cywerz: agree with you hedyg
HedyG: the 5 would have been ok
JosJ: so another imp for the warriors
sybarra: and the uptrick
Vugraph117: sorry a little necessary break:-)
sybarra: :)
HedyG: :))
JosJ: 3nt was not easy to reach in OR
Cywerz: blame it on the dinner
JosJ: maybe it was the cupboard's fault
sybarra: seems to be still closed and rather full
JosJ: full of empty bottles?
JosJ: just to keep up appearances?
HedyG: 3nt looks fine now
Cywerz: high !h, and switch !s
HedyG: now must play 1!c before A!s is gone!
sybarra: !S shift could be messy
Cywerz: very nice defense so far
HedyG: disc A!d on the 3rd !s?
Walddk4: and finesse clubs?
Cywerz: Dag isnt called stikkmaskin (trick machine) for nothing
HedyG: :)
Walddk4: Well done, but I'd like to see the club finesse too
HedyG: lol
Walddk4: automatic, why didn't you finesse the 9, partner?
Cywerz: can he really take the finesse right away?
HedyG: so S had 1!h and 4!s
Vugraph117: wrong claim when clu 5-0.. discussion one or 2 down
Walddk4: 2
Cywerz: 1
JosJ: did he really claim?
Walddk4: Clubs are normally not 5-0 north of the Arctic Circle. That's why he claimed
Walddk4: Was a foul board
HedyG: :))
Walddk4: :-)
Cywerz: no, should be 2 down
JosJ: ah ic
Cywerz: to get your !d tricks, you need to take them right away
JosJ: and agree with -2 too...
HedyG: all looking very sleepy:)))))
HedyG: wonder what was for lunch!
Walddk4: That's from the open room, and they finished
sybarra: we knew the dinner menu
Walddk4: TGhey are digesting the polar bear they had for lunch
HedyG: lol
HedyG: we have dinner in the evening and lunch at noon
JosJ: better than the polar bear disgesting them
sybarra: Wild Salmon, coalfish, prawns, mussels "grillet et bouillet".
Walddk4: Undo pls Espen
Walddk4: Yes, but that's a lie
Cywerz: nice bidding
JosJ: maybe but do they know when it's evening?
Walddk4: Baard does not have 2 aces and trump queen
Vugraph117: john is thinking
sybarra: so is dinner after next set?
HedyG: another dinner:))
Walddk4: You see the danger in 6!S on a non-club lead, as pointed out by David Greenwood in the other room?
Walddk4: If for some reason Bård thinks it's on a club guess
Walddk4: and ducks one
Walddk4: The problem here, however, is that North is declarer
HedyG: anyhow what does he keep at 3 cards from the end?
Walddk4: With South as declarer as was the case in the other room, it might have worked
Cywerz: then another push
Walddk4: Now it's just flat
sybarra: just ask if !H k onside..
HedyG: last board
Cywerz: maybe they dont want to claim anymore...
JosJ: sensible
HedyG: our thanks to Espen Larsen, our talented operator in Hennes:) great job!
Vugraph117: claimed on H finess
JosJ: OK, well claimed
sybarra: and they all laughed
HedyG: to my excellent co-commentators Shirley Ybarra, Kenneth Syversen and Jos Jacobs....and of course Walddk4!!
JosJ: ty Espen, wd
HedyG: Finally thanks to John-Eldar Pedersen("The Farmer"),our host,who has also been instrumental in organising this broadcast
Cywerz: ty2
Vugraph117: thanks from Hennes..

HedyG: next match in 27 minutes
sybarra: this is one of the most fun broadcasts we do....alwys enjoyable
HedyG: :))
sybarra: and thx Hedy to you :))
Vugraph117: same match, but 2.
HedyG: ok
HedyG: 2nd part of this match
Cywerz: maybe the warriors can get to the finals?
HedyG: are you partial?
JosJ: still possible, yes, if they go on like this
JosJ: well, not like THIS I meant...
Vugraph117: the warriors need 23-7 I think
JosJ: yes
Cywerz: that should be correct
JosJ: so they are half way now
Cywerz: anyone having the exact imp difference for 23-7?
Walddk4: one sec
HedyG: for 10 bds or 20?
Cywerz: 20
HedyG: i guess 10 for now
Vugraph117: 20 match
Cywerz: ouch!!!
Walddk4: 37-41
Vugraph117: upps C 4 not good
Cywerz: what was he thinking?
Cywerz: he probably play !c to T right away...
sybarra: that !C were breaking is my guess
HedyG: that its the last board
Vugraph117: still 9 i guess
Cywerz: after 3!s, !c arent breaking
HedyG: yes
sybarra: that is true Kenneth
Cywerz: but he will make it anyway
sybarra: hanging on to 3 !D for dear life.....
Cywerz: the squeeze card...
HedyG: no way:))
Cywerz: had it been the !d7 I would have agreed
sybarra: really?
HedyG: W is hanging on to that 1!
HedyG: thats why he didnt lead it:)
HedyG: oh!
Cywerz: made, but still more imps for the warrios
HedyG: thanks all for joining! see you in 20 minutes
Cywerz: cu
sybarra: cu then :))
Cywerz: thx for now
JosJ: cu all, ty!

Walddk4: We will keep the tables open. Resuming in 18 minutes
->Walddk4: i lar stå åpent til neste runde om 15 min - samme, holder igjen or
Walddk4: fint
->Walddk4: mente CR
Walddk2 (Kringkasting): Our live vugraph broadcast from Norway restarting in a couple of minutes
Walddk4: Good evening and welcome back to Hennes in Norway for the annual Farmen Invitational Teams. This is the 2nd half of the last match today (10 boards)
Walddk4: Your commentators are Hedy Grey, Switzerland, Shirley Ybarra, USA, John Stewart, Canada, and Kenneth Syversen, Norway. I am Roland Wald from Denmark
Walddk4: Our operator is Espen Larsen. Welcome back to you too
HedyG: welcome back everybody:))
sybarra: hello again all
HedyG: re Espen:)
HedyG: the open room has started to play as you can see here: http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm
HedyG: they will will then pass the boards to us and we will start
Vugraph117: waiting for 1. board from open
HedyG: right
HedyG: John is playing
Vugraph117: board 8 is corrected to 2 down
HedyG: as we thought
Vugraph117: re hi
HedyG: :)
Walddk4: Wedlcome to John Stewart
Walddk4: welcome even
HedyG: hey John:)
Vugraph117: warriors lead 21-0
stewball: hi everyone
sybarra: hello John, welcome :)
HedyG: 2!h-p-4!h?
stewball: hedy and shirley:)
HedyG: no lol
stewball: 2!s is hardly automatic ocall
HedyG: overtake and play !D?
stewball: not so loud hedy
HedyG: sryyyy
sybarra: she's been this way all day (LOLLOL)
Vugraph117: 1 sec before
sybarra: just kidding Hedy
stewball: likely to get trumps wrong here
stewball: like that
HedyG: and now?
Vugraph117: upps
stewball: why didnt he overtake this
HedyG: thats what he is thinking too
Vugraph117: bård is frusrated
stewball: unshakesperian
stewball: survives however
stewball: um
HedyG: does he?
Vugraph117: not now
stewball: well he did he just didnt wish to
HedyG: twice
stewball: seems he forgot the !d ten was gone
Vugraph117: yes or tilt because not overtake trumph
sybarra: serious oooops
HedyG: it started when Tommy made the Q!s
Vugraph117: thinking, but tommy dont claim
sybarra: this cold have been much worse than it is
Vugraph117: forgot T of diamond
stewball: well if you;re going to overcall with that hand you really must pay attention
stewball: tommy trying to drag a !s cue out of his partner
HedyG: quite right he is
stewball: Stian really must bid again here....
stewball: 4!h was a bizarre choice with the !s AK
HedyG: Tommy should have bid 4!h over 3nt, that shows that he wants a !s cue
Vugraph117: 4H.. q-bid
Cywerz: lets hope 5NT was pick a slam, not gsf
HedyG: the play will be quick
Vugraph117: 5nt was grand slam try because Tommy assumed b2 A from Stian after 5S
HedyG: John's website is : http://www.nordpol.no/farmen3.htm
HedyG: ty Espen
stewball: John who?
HedyG: the farmer:)
HedyG: our host for the weekend
stewball: 2!c?
Vugraph117: not sure
HedyG: John-Eldar Pedersen
sybarra: clubs and higher it looks like
stewball: is a real bid?
HedyG: maybe playing dont?
sybarra: if he made that bid
HedyG: and trying to stay low
stewball: is that an excuse or an explanation..lol
HedyG: only -1
HedyG: against nothing
HedyG: well yes, better than 2!h
stewball: I'm sure Bard will be shocked that it is down any
HedyG: -2 now
HedyG: a loss instead of a win
HedyG: the tide seems to have turned
Cywerz: the warriors need 27 on the last 7 boards
stewball: i try to be open minded about different bidding attiitudes.....
stewball: however bidding with that hand is just plain nuts
HedyG: maybe its ok in their style
stewball: imagine putting down Bards hand and seeing pard go for 500 against nothing
HedyG: as is 3!h here
HedyG: the 500 was wrong play..
Vugraph117: sigve tried a stunt last board.. not their style
Cywerz: blame it on the dinner, I say
HedyG: too high again
HedyG: :))
stewball: 4!s may have been making.....
HedyG: doesnt believe in !h 2-2- and K on side? is their any other way to win this?
HedyG: there*
Vugraph117: H q and small from m Stiann:-)
HedyG: :))
Cywerz: rumors say board 15 offers a big swing
Vugraph117: played on singel K after shown 2 Diamond
Cywerz: either K or T singel to make
HedyG: yes
Cywerz: if 3-1
HedyG: 3-1 probable after S showed blacks
Cywerz: in deed
HedyG: ok here is the 15!
sybarra: similar auction to same spot
Cywerz: not quite :)
HedyG: so far so good
stewball: looks like a push to me
Cywerz: N's decision takes us back to board 4 on last round
HedyG: oh!!!!!!!
sybarra: ?
sybarra: is that true?
HedyG: did he really play this?
stewball: no way
Cywerz: double or bid with 5 card suit when pushed to 3 level
Vugraph117: yes
sybarra: why.....?
HedyG: oh my!!
Cywerz: what did they drink for dinner???
HedyG: we have new leaders
sybarra: cupboard appears to be closed....
Vugraph117: still down, but east choice to play heart:-( all went wrong
stewball: it was revenge for Bards low !s
Cywerz: we have something called "idiotprisen" (the Idiot Award) in Norway
Cywerz: this might be a candidate
HedyG: multi 2!d
stewball: 2!s=p/c
HedyG: 2!s shows gamegoing hand if weak with !h
Cywerz: at least inviting if w2 !h
Cywerz: similar auction up till 3NT in OR
HedyG: can make 13 if gets the !c right
Cywerz: in fact
stewball: well they outbid the the other room
HedyG: yes
stewball: i have to be a taxi for a bit,i'll be back shortly
Vugraph117: tommy talking not thinking:-)
sybarra: :)
HedyG: 4!h in the other room shows 4 cards in !c i guess since 4!c looks like MSS
Cywerz: that's him, for sure
HedyG: time to play A!c
HedyG: no reason to bid in S!
sybarra: oh well
sybarra: not listening this time
Cywerz: last segment we were told that Tommy was sitting on his one pass card
HedyG: ok X usually shows a good opening hand with !ds
Cywerz: probably still sitting on it
HedyG: rofl
HedyG: still 2!c surely enough even then!
HedyG: here it seems to show the black suits
Cywerz: probably wanted to pre empt opps away from 2!s
HedyG: not trying to ruff a !h?
Vugraph117: no!!
HedyG: are you ok Espen?
Vugraph117: yes.. tu
HedyG: :))
HedyG: i agree with !! lol
hauk69: bra utspill mot 6ntx.........du steg i kurs der.....ifølge sponsorn.......
Cywerz: pass card has been found!
Cywerz: you can stop looking for it!
Vugraph117: 2 D was 10+ with D supp so 2nt is not so bad
hauk69: du må høre med woody om han e hypp på å være med på ksfinans......sten sponser sikkert påmelding pluss at han har lovet en bedre middag på laget
HedyG: no entry to dummy to discard a !s
Vugraph117: but 2nt i hard
HedyG: my famous last words:((
sybarra: and that is that
HedyG: now !s
HedyG: :(((((
sybarra: must have been sp
Cywerz: 50% chance to get it right
HedyG: it wasnt !s:(
Vugraph117: A of h and new heart
Cywerz: probably turned the cards face down, shuffled and pulled out one
HedyG: talking?
Vugraph117: mm
HedyG: lol
HedyG: 2!d
Cywerz: I probably shouldnt be too nasty, because I use to do things like this myself
HedyG: we all do!
Cywerz: lol
HedyG: especially after a good meal
HedyG: and the effect of the meal is not immediate! it takes about 1 hour so this about right
Cywerz: Bård knows Tommy from earløier
Cywerz: earlier
HedyG: even Espen is suffering from the effects:))
sybarra: this could get a bit brutal
HedyG: now K
HedyG: !h
sybarra: and last hand now for today coming up
sybarra: Thanks very much to our wonderful operator Espen. Well done!
Cywerz: not even 24 imps is enough for the warriors
HedyG: thank you Espen:))
sybarra: Thanks to my co-commentators-who have provided great insight and thoughtful comments: John Stewart, Kenneth Syversen and Hedy Grey.
HedyG: ty Shirley:)
Cywerz: the farmers will face the skilled tomorrow
Cywerz: ty2
Cywerz: ty Espen
Cywerz: and ty spectators
sybarra: And a special thanks to John-Eldar Pedersen, "The Farmer", the host and the person who has been instrumental in organising this broadcast
Vugraph117: tu all
sybarra: Our next session from Framen is scheduled for tomorrow : 6:00 am New York, 12.00 Paris, 11:00 am London, 8:00 pm Sydney
sybarra: thx specs, has been great fun
Vugraph117: spade 3 in board 15 expencive
sybarra: very!
hauk69: lol.....
HedyG: is he really thinking?
Vugraph117: tommy has just dusted a pass bid.. indend to use tomorrow
HedyG: lolllll
Vugraph117: yes he is thinking
ddmmdd0: disconnect?
->ddmmdd0: no thinking
Brann: be han bli ferdig, kampen starter nå!
Cywerz: the longer he is thinking, the worse my head ache gets
Vugraph117: east still thinking
sybarra: vugraph they are pouring....
Cywerz: sure he is not asleep?
sybarra: webcam I mean
HedyG: we must finish before football starts!!
HedyG: only 2 minutes left lol
HedyG: thanks Espen for telling them:))
sybarra: thx all
HedyG: thank you all for joining, hope you enjoyed the show
sybarra: cu tomorrow
Cywerz: tell them to get some sleep before tomorrow's boards
Cywerz: cu tomorrow folks
mona14 (Lobby): oui!!!!

Chatlogg for Bridge Base Online sesjon for vugraph117 starter ved: Sun Jul 09 11:25:54 2006


Chatlogg for Bridge Base Online sesjon for vugraph117 starter ved: Sun Jul 09 12:01:40 2006


cywerz: hei meg
Walddk4 (Kringkasting): Lukket rum er oppe nu. Danske og norske kommentarer
jvage: Hei alle sammen, ser ut som noe er feil her
sommer: hej all ..ja der er ingen kort!!
Walddk4: Tag det nu roligt allesammen
Walddk4: I er i lukket rum
sommer: totalt lukket;)
jvage: Det står åpent rom og de samme spillerne som i andre rommet
Walddk4: Navne og rum ændrer sig når det første spil kommer op
sommer: hehe
jvage: OK, ingen grunn til panikk altså!
Walddk4: Jeg var sikker på at nordmænd ville falde i den fælde :-)
cywerz: da er det bare å vente folkens
Walddk4: Vi må vente til de er færdige med spil 1 i åbent rum
Walddk4: Vores operatør er Baard Riisnes. Velkommen til dig også
jvage: Hei, Baard!
Walddk4: John Vaage, Povl Sommer og Kenneth Syversen er kommentatorer
cywerz: da er vi igang
Walddk4: Jeg hedder Roland Wald
cywerz: hei alle sammen!
jvage: I åpent brøt Ø/V Burns lov, og valgte en trumffarge med færre trumf enn motparten
cywerz: blir nok gjentakelse her
sommer: det er normalt godt at åbne 1NT selv med 5F MA, men de 3 esser og en konge bør bekymre lidt;)
jvage: Verten var snill og reddet dem
cywerz: sprekt meldt av farmeren
sommer: ja
cywerz: kan snelle hjem dette
sommer: ja lige akkurat ..1NT er 2 bet
sommer: netop med 7 kontroller alene, er det bedst at åbne 1!H efter min mening
Walddk4: enig
jvage: Motparten kan bete dette, f.eks. med 3 !d stjelinger
cywerz: GIB sier at det blir bet
Walddk4: Tommy burde have passet 2!C i det andet rum
sommer: ja ..den kan sættes
jvage: Måtte kanskje underspille kløveren (ikke akkurat opplagt)
Walddk4: Det var vel næppe noget chok at makker havde ruder
sommer: ..kunne..
cywerz: er det bare hos meg at det går veldig sakte?
sommer: her går det i normalt tempo
Walddk4: Det er tidsforskellen, Kenneth
Walddk4: :-)
sommer: lol
cywerz: han husket da å stikke med !dA
cywerz: Gib sier hjemgang nå
cywerz: det gjorde John-Eldar og
sommer: er vi enige?:)
cywerz: de er nok mer påpasselige med rett claim i dag
Walddk4: Dejligt med nogle fredelige spil så tidligt om morgenen
Walddk4: For resten, har I set barskabet?
sommer: med den heldige !Dsits kan N vinde 10 stik
cywerz: tomt?
Walddk4: Det er stort set tomt!!
Walddk4: http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm
cywerz: må trekke !c til kongen nå
jvage: På begge de 2 første spillene ser det ut til at N/S tjener noen IMP selv om de melder over en kontrakt som var bet
jvage: Må vel gjøre rett i kløver for å få hjem dette nå
cywerz: delvis innspilt nå
cywerz: kommer an på !c-behandlingen ja
jvage: Hjerter er trygt, med det bordet ser han at svart farge er uaktuellt
jvage: Etter åpningen bør han vel klare å spille kl til kongen (vest har allerede vist ruK etc)
cywerz: du kan så si
cywerz: bridgen holder nok et høyere nivå i dag enn i går
cywerz: men nå bommer ikke engang jeg kløveren
cywerz: kløver fra bordet nå for 9
jvage: Jada, Dag er på hugget!
cywerz: er det rusk i stikkmaskineriet i dag? Dag bruker lang tid
jvage: Her kan det bli mer action
jvage: I åpent tok de den gode forhåndsstampen, Ø/V har mye stikk i major
Walddk4: http://www.nordpol.no/farmen3.htm
cywerz: da ble det dagens første buttspill
sommer: ja ,, ganske normalt offer her
jvage: Om det blir like mange stikk
jvage: Og det ser sannsynlig ut
cywerz: ser ut som 12 stikk i !h på Espen sin hånd
cywerz: enda et imp til bøndene?
cywerz: 10 stikk var ett for mye
jvage: Stille og rolig 1NT med overføring i åpent, og samme her
sommer: måske 1 imp ud
sommer: ..eller ind:)
jvage: Kanskje ikke så enkelt for nord å vri spar når ruter settes opp
cywerz: begynner å se enklere ut nå
jvage: Spillefører fjerner nords tapende alternativ her.....
cywerz: nå får Syd lagt styrke også
jvage: Dermed enda et IMP til bønda
sommer: ja
cywerz: har egen sang og...
cywerz: "Vi er bønda i fra nord..."
sommer: "...langt, langt fra nord ..."
jvage: En forballsang som kan overføres direkte til bridge....
jvage: fotball
sommer: "...altid is på vora fjord ..":))
cywerz: hehe
sommer: hehe
sommer: nå ..
sommer: sød lille slem med lidt held
jvage: Ikke så verst slem, 11 toppstikk og trusler i 3 farger
cywerz: enkel slem i ruter?
sommer: 6!D kan vinde med !CK ud
cywerz: verre med !h
sommer: ..ikke med !HQ ud
sommer: ja
Walddk4: De kommer næppe i slem
cywerz: er på god vei nå
vugraph117: Espen spilte på 6nt i går med lead fra kq 10
sommer: hvis Roland ikke synes om slemmen, er den allerede brændt!!
cywerz: den var vakker
hauk69: gjett om han kommer til å få høre det..................
Walddk4: Hvad har jeg vundet?
cywerz: en god? vurdering av John-Eldar
sommer: ..retten til at vinde 6!D med !HQ ud:)))
cywerz: 11 stikk i blinde
sommer: nu går han efter dobbeltskvise;)
jvage: an lasjerer for å få tempo til skvis, men ser ut som motparten kan holde alle 3 trusselfargene
cywerz: !h3 sitter vel på feil hånd
sommer: ja ..der er ingen skvis
jvage: Han skviser i praksis seg selv først på siste ruteren
sommer: kun "pølse"
jvage: Men der kom visst 12 stikket rekende ja
sommer: pølsen
cywerz: men Espen klarte ikke prøven
cywerz: når ikke !cKQJ falt under esset, må han spille !s da
sommer: "mange blække små ..."
cywerz: god spilleføring, men ikke noe vakkert motspill
jvage: Fjerde vinstspillet til bøndene, men kun 6 IMP's totalt!
cywerz: ikke samme omsetning som i går ettermiddag
Walddk4: Hvad dyrket man deroppe? Isvafler? :-)
jvage: Her kan det bli litt større score
Walddk4: Er der nogen af jer, der har været der?
cywerz: da må Dag ha til 2!s over 1NT
jvage: Der hindret nok farmeren et buttspill, han tok fargen til Ø/V
cywerz: John-Eldar hadde til 2!c ja...
jvage: Nei, har ikke vært nærmere enn Tromsø, Roland
cywerz: da blir det utligning
jvage: En dobling kunne vært aktuelt fra Stein
Walddk4: http://www.nordpol.no/eucaps1.jpg her kan tilskuerne se, hvor Farmen ligger
Walddk4: Det ser ud til at det er hurtigere at rejse fra Oslo til Rom end fra Oslo til Farmen
jvage: Det er nesten like langt også!
sommer: ..forresten "andobe" har givet mig ret i den første indskydelse om spil 5 .. der er 12 stik
cywerz: det er nok mye raskere å reise til Roma
vugraph117: Neida Tommy brukte 3,5 timer for å komme hit
sommer: ..på en dobbeltskvis
cywerz: sitter ikke !h-trusselen på feil hånd da?
jvage: Svein Arild (lagkamerat med Dag) regnet ikke med at han var særlig fornøyd med farmerens meldinger her......
sommer: nei .. på den sidste !D må Espen blanke !CK ..S kaster !S4 og tar nu tre !S stik ..W er skviset i !H/C
cywerz: hmm, stemmer nok det, progressiv tosidig skvis altså
sommer: Farmer holder !H3 og !C9 tilbage havd har W?;)
sommer: ja
sommer: tak "andobe":)
cywerz: godt motspill av Espen altså, kan ikke la motparten briljere slik
jvage: I mellomtiden ser det ut som en utligning her
jvage: En måte å bete er å spille hjerter til høyning
sommer: udligning? knap nok vel
jvage: 2 ganger
cywerz: spar tilbake var ikke hva doktoren beordret
cywerz: nå blir det 9 stikk
sommer: ..nej, Stein håber jo på, at E har lidt bedre !H
jvage: Nå står det vel igjen, kan f.eks. sette opp !h
jvage: Virker som hjerterretur var påkrevd i stikk 2
cywerz: det stemmer nok John
sommer: ja, men kun fordi, E har så dårlige !H
jvage: Og samtidig så god spar, som er den andre forutsetningen
cywerz: det er rett med !h om Espen har et av de "harde" essene
jvage: En normal 3NT her
jvage: Multi, aktuelt 20-21 NT
cywerz: fullt mulig å score et imp for bøndene igjen
jvage: Dårlig med inntak til Øst's langfarger i major, så kan nok få et overstikk om han prøver
cywerz: men det blir dårlig med forbindelser etter !d ut
Walddk4: Jeg tror ikke han får mere end 9
sommer: chance for et imp mere til "Farmen"
jvage: Double-dummy kan han få 10 med å sette opp kløverstikk
Walddk4: Chancerne er væsentligt større på næste spil
sommer: nu !S først
cywerz: kommer kløver fra bordet nå
Walddk4: Der var vel ingen grund til at gå på bordet for at spille spar
jvage: Men det var feil kløver fra bordet
cywerz: da noterer vi 9 stikk
sommer: nej da
Walddk4: Først skal han vel sørge for at få 9 stik
sommer: gør han ikke det ved at spille !S?
Walddk4: Jo
Walddk4: Derfor burde han også spille spar i stik 2
sommer: stadig "fine" chancer for 10;)
cywerz: kan få 10 på et innspill fortsatt?
jvage: Må bestemme seg for å ta ruterkutt (ikke kløverkutt)
sommer: ..når der ikke kom !D retur
sommer: troede, han havde "læst" !D
Walddk4: Nu må han dykke
jvage: Må legge liten, da er vest innspillt
Walddk4: Stein bliver slutspillet
sommer: ..eller 10
sommer: uha ..John er ikke tryg nu:)
jvage: Han reddet seg meget pent unna en ikke helt aktuell start
sommer: blir dog mere tryg, efterhånden som tiden går her:)
Walddk4: Stein ved hvor det bærer hen
cywerz: kanskje Espen blir pølseskvist igjen?
sommer: åh, næppe nu
cywerz: lol
Walddk4: Man ved aldrig
jvage: Artig spill!
sommer: det er lidt specielt at spille !D10 både fra !Q1098 og 1098, er det ikke?
Walddk4: Jeg spiller 10'en fra begge kombinationer med mindre jeg har specialaftaler
sommer: jeg vill nok have foræret S et overtræk med udspil af !D9:)
jvage: Ny 3NT, igjen ser det ut som det er overstikket som er mest spennende i utgangspunktet
jvage: Men kanskje de stopper i 3!d?
cywerz: 3!d var defensivt av John-Eldat
Walddk4: oops
sommer: ..en lille "undo"
cywerz: men de fikk kontrakten på rett hånd
jvage: Kanskje de bruker 2/1 som utgangskrav?
Walddk4: 3!D er en undermedling med mindre de spiller 2/1 hvor 2!D er gamekrav
cywerz: kan være
sommer: ..ser !DQx da ikke god ud overfor AKxxxx?
jvage: John E. er ikke kjent for å undermelde, så det er mest sannsynlig forklaring
cywerz: lol
sommer: ..selv om 3!D ikke er krav, er 3NT vel en ok chance?
vugraph117: bruker ikke 2/1 som utgangskrav 3 r kan passes
sommer: ja
jvage: Takk, Baard:)
Walddk4: Måske fair nok, hvis Dag ikke har ruderfit
cywerz: problemet er at der er bare 8 stikk hvis AKJxxx er alt Syd har
sommer: ja, enig
Walddk4: Hold, udenfor zonen
jvage: Utspillet sikret det niende, nå spilles det kun om overstikket
sommer: ja, men odds taler vel for en "lille en" ved siden af?
Walddk4: Det får de vist hele tiden
Walddk4: En lille en
sommer: lol
sommer: det har vi også fået i 5 af 7 spil, så ...
Walddk4: Barskabet ser trist ud nu
sommer: ..der er kun Coke light tilbage
Walddk4: Der er kun lysestager og en half flaske eddike tilbage tror jeg
jvage: Men min lagkamerat fra i vår, Binge, ser fornøyd ut likevel
Walddk4: Her glemte Wirkola at hoppe
Walddk4: Han blev stående på springbakken
jvage: Ja, og det kostet en utgangssving
jvage: 3!h i åpent ser altfor tamt ut
Walddk4: Det er den mest soleklare 4!H efter 2!H genmelding
jvage: Det starter likt her
sommer: ..det melder Farmer også ..tror jeg
sommer: 4!
Walddk4: 2!H viser entydigt 6 kort mindst
Walddk4: Ellers har man meldt forkert
Walddk4: Sådan!
jvage: Han var i tvil, men valgte rett
sommer: fordobling af farmens imps nu
jvage: Om jeg skal gjette, tror jeg farmeren vurderte 3NT som alternativet
cywerz: der får han dessverre !c ut
vugraph117: yep han vurderte 3nt
cywerz: og da er det 6 imp feil vei
Walddk4: Men er det ikke sådan, at man bør lade værten vinde turneringen?
sommer: nei, "utak er værtens løn":))
vugraph117: om det skulle bli sånn er det ikke frivilig
jvage: Dette er ikke helt kabal, om han tar finnessen kommer det en stjeling, og det er tynt med inntak til syd
Walddk4: Bliver man inviteret med alt betalt, eller skal man selv skyde noget ind?
rekko: litt kan du jo:-)
vugraph117: selv om jeg gjorde det i går kveld ;)
sommer: au .. nu er det farligt
jvage: Ser ut som han trengte et rett rutervalg etter å ha stukket opp
sommer: ja ..må senere spille !D til 10
cywerz: mange varianter i !d
Walddk4: Det er vist for sent
jvage: Om stjelingen kom fra 3. korts ville det ikke vært farlig, men nå kan han gå bet
cywerz: men det der ble feil
sommer: ..men det ville jo løse sig med singel i !S hos E
Walddk4: Nu går den kun en ned, kunne have været 2
jvage: Der skaffet de ham inntaket han trengte
Walddk4: Han er død
jvage: Desverre for å berge med kun 1 bet
cywerz: uheldig nå
Walddk4: Wirkola var den kloke man ved det andet bord
Walddk4: Han må ha' set Binge spille før
cywerz: det er lett å la seg friste til å ta finessen i stikk 1
jvage: Meget uheldig sits, 4!h var en kjempekontrakt
jvage: Må spille nøyaktig selv om han ikke tar finessen
Walddk4: Her er en oplagt slem som alle vi naturligvis ville melde
jvage: I det minste Roland!
sommer: ;)
cywerz: lol
jvage: Dette er siste spill i denne sesjonen, vi starter igjen om en halv time
jvage: Benytter sjansen til å takke mine glimrende medkommentatorer Kenneth, Povl og Roland
sommer: den er kun knap 27%, så den skal ikke meldes
Walddk4: Hvad mener du med det?
cywerz: takker det samme
cywerz: lol
sommer: tak til dig også John
jvage: Og vår operatør Roland, den eneste som ikke har lagt et feil kort!
orgab: come to play
Walddk4: 27% er dobbelt så godt som mine gennemsnits-slemmer!
jvage: Baard mener jeg
sommer: nå ja ..27% er godt for nogle;))
Walddk4: Stod de ude af den???
sommer: ..men det er ikke med "Odds-vald"
cywerz: med 2 "ess" borte, er det ikke aktuelt å passere 5!s uansett
jvage: Og farmeren JohnP, som har gjort denne overføringen mulig
sommer: det er bare en detalje, Kenneth:))
sommer: gtg ..hav det godt:))
Walddk4: Tak Povl
vugraph117: espen sier at han angrer som en hund på 2 sp meldingen var 3
cywerz: vi noterer 10-6 til pause
jvage: Fortsatt spenning før siste sesjon
cywerz: en merkelig jevn kamp med lave utbetalinger
Walddk4: 2. halvleg vil få engelske kommentarer i begge rum
Walddk4: 2nd half with English commentary in both rooms
Walddk4: Tak til alle vore tilskuere. Håber I har nydt showet fra det nordligste Norge
cywerz: det ble et trøsteimp til bøndene før vi tar pause
Walddk4: Vi er tilbage med 2. halvleg af finalen om ca. 20 minutter
jvage: Blir visst et imp her også etter den litt originale trumfbehandlingen
cywerz: nei... trenge noen til å transportere kort
Walddk4: Vi ses, tak for nu
cywerz: [privat]
jvage: Takk for nå:-)
cywerz: takk for nå alle

Walddk4: Resuming in 17 minutes
Walddk4: English commentary in both rooms. Tables will be open
josj: oktober misschien...
Walddk4: Play in the open room will restart in 5 minutes. 1 board later in this room
Walddk2 (Kringkasting): Our live vugraph broadcast from Norway about to restart. English commentary in both rooms
Walddk4: Good afternoon and welcome back to Hennes in Norway for the annual Farmen Invitational Teams. Second half of 10 boards in the final now
cywerz: før vi begynner overføringa fra farmen, vil jeg minne alle om at de kan melde seg på til bridgefestivalen allerede...
Walddk4: Your commentators are Shirley Ybarra, USA, Kenneth Syversen, Norway, David Stern, Australia, and Steve Eginton, England. I am Roland Wald from Denmark
sybarra: hello to all :))
Walddk4: Our operator is Baard Riisnes. Welcome back to you too
DavidStern: Hi All
Walddk4: http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm for live pictures with automatic updates every minute
cywerz: hi everyone!
Walddk4: We are 300 km (190 miles) north of the Arctic Circle where the sun is shining 24 hours a day at the moment (when it doesn't rain)
DavidStern: And the temperature Roland?
Walddk4: Not sure, early 20's?
Walddk4: PLUS
eggy: Hi all
Walddk4: Baard can tell us
Walddk4: But you get minus 35-40 in the winter
Walddk4: Hi Steve
DavidStern: 20 degrees celsius and all day sunshine sounds quite pleasant but hard to imagine sleeping at night. Hi Steve
Walddk4: They have blinders
eggy: Well if you can;t sleep, you can play BBO until sunset
HenryB: or sunrise
Walddk4: Well yes, but sunset is in 2 months
vugraph117: not minus 30 40 here .. have to travel longer north for those temp. Dont thk we have more than - 15 this winter
HenryB: and sunset in 8
DavidStern: OK here we go. A nice close match after 10 boards
DavidStern: Hearts N/S seems possible
sybarra: best if we bid them then
DavidStern: There we go
HenryB: I would start with double with the W hand. How do you feel?
DavidStern: Looks like a classic takeout double to me
cywerz: I think its a close call
cywerz: weak spade suit
DavidStern: If you want to see a picture of the table upadted every minute go to http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm
vugraph117: it was a TO dbl
eggy: I imagone that 3 is OK, but might a diamond now cause problems for 4?
DavidStern: In the OR there was a takeout double
DavidStern: To view the auction in the OR put your cursor over the OR result of 3!D S = +110
HenryB: Sure, South's was TO, but some of us would prefer X over 1!d
DavidStern: This seems likely to make 140 or 170 for 1 or 2 imps to N/S
cywerz: looks like 10 tricks now
eggy: I would have thought ducking the first heart keeps more tension
DavidStern: Indeed the trump cashing didn't terrify declarer
DavidStern: The !DT is a nice card
eggy: that's true
cywerz: only 1 imp diffence now
DavidStern: Let's discuss serious matters - what is eerybody tipping for France Italy in Just 6 hours time
cywerz: 4-2 for Italy after penalty shootout
HenryB: or Federer-Nadal in one
Walddk4: Isn't it in 7 hours?
DavidStern: Ah indeed that will be interesting too.
Walddk4: Football that is
DavidStern: No I thought so but apparently 20:00 not 21:00
DavidStern: So I am informed
Walddk4: Will check, one sec
sybarra: certainly enough sports today..:)))))
DavidStern: I gave Nadal very little chance on grass but he has proved he can improve on this surface
sybarra: this slam should not be hard to reach
HenryB: All of this does not include Stage 8 of the Tour
Walddk4: It is indeed at 20.00 Paris time
cywerz: this board probably wont go down in history as an exciting one
eggy: definitely 2000 _1900 here)
Walddk4: Italy 1-0
DavidStern: With the difference between being 04:00 and 05:00 here in Sydney we make sure of our times
DavidStern: seem headed for slam
HenryB: looks like E-W are willing to bid second round controls
Walddk4: Luca Toni scoring in the 27th minute. No need to watch guys
DavidStern: Seems WBF rules don't apply here in the arctic circle with a mobile phone lying on the table http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm or maybe that is in case a Polar bear is sighted
cywerz: as long as its turned off, its ok
HenryB: We are banning all electronics from the playing area
DavidStern: Nothing to this hand I suspect which should leave the lead at 1 IMP to the skilled
sybarra: play will be very fast
cywerz: in fact the play isnt straight forward
cywerz: need to ruff a diamond
Walddk4: No it isn't
DavidStern: Yes most tourneys now do not allow any electronic devices in the playing area so if you have a notebook computer cannot even bring the bag into the room
Walddk4: But ruff low or high? We can see everything works, but declarer doesn't know
cywerz: then it was easy
eggy: well that resolves that problem
Walddk4: Tommy was on side :-)
HenryB: That simplifies matters
DavidStern: I am informed that this is an informal 'private' tournament and the players decide much of what happens
cywerz: en deed David
cywerz: in*
Walddk4: Drining and smoking mandatory, just like in heaven
Walddk4: Drinking
HenryB: Dining sounds good too
eggy: JD will be apoplectic
sybarra: this score might be a match killer
DavidStern: Hmmm -1100
cywerz: probably last time smoking will be allowed... smoking soon forbidden with 2 or more people in same room
HenryB: is 4!sX inescapable?
Walddk4: 4!S is suicidal with that West hand
DavidStern: I think we may see a similar contract here
sybarra: or not
DavidStern: well done by West not to get involved
Walddk4: Stein is looking at a 10-loser hand. How can you bid 4!S at game all?
HenryB: I do not. 4!h looks more likely, and 10 imps to the skilled
DavidStern: As I noted above Roland to see the auction in the OR simply move your mouse over the OR result that's how
eggy: mind you - it's no worse than a non vul game swing
DavidStern: Pretty ordinary bid I would suggest
HenryB: If you must "bid" I suppose, but more use of the "green card" as a call would be well advised
DavidStern: All roads will lead to at least 620 for 10 IMPS to The Skilled
cywerz: I fear 2!c from Tommy
cywerz: and there it was
DavidStern: N/S need to avoid getting too high
HenryB: Them as can, do; them as can't write about them as can.
DavidStern: Good pass by South rather than 3!h
cywerz: push, next board
cywerz: atypical from Tommy
DavidStern: I certainly would have bid 3!h
HenryB: Well, yes, but you would not have bid 2!c
cywerz: I wouldnt have been in that situation
cywerz: didnt fancy the distribution
DavidStern: Marginal 2!c at best but part of the modern game to show good suit here
HenryB: at matchpoints perhaps. suicidal imho at imps
cywerz: rumors say there are people considering t/o dbl instead of 2!c...
eggy: how suicidal can it be - it must be tactically right to make it harder to show the majors surely
DavidStern: Henry I think you would be in the minority in NOT bidding 2!c outside the US for sure
HenryB: shape is okay. hand would be a GREAT disappointment to partner
DavidStern: Not all bids are deogned to be constructive. I take Steve's point showing a good suit and making life more difficult for the Opps is very much part of the modern game
HenryB: Well, it seems to be half and half in sunny north
cywerz: here it gave W the possibility to show his hand with one bid...
DavidStern: Give West a 3-4-3-3 same hand than not so eact
DavidStern: easy
cywerz: then they get away from a bad game...
cywerz: lol
DavidStern: Also has the benefit of suggesting a good lead to partner when West declares 3NT and may have 9 tricks without a club lead. Yes a bad game but one which may often make on the ...
DavidStern: 'wrong' lead
HenryB: an imp to the Farmers
cywerz: cheap one
cywerz: I agree with the lead directing argument for 2!c
sybarra: potential swing here
DavidStern: Very lucky with 2 aces onside
HenryB: somehow it should be possible to beat 5!d
cywerz: strange if they copy 550
eggy: but if they are right 4S would make
HenryB: It looks to me that 3!s is the limit --
DavidStern: The same 2 aces which are good for E/W are bad for N/S
HenryB: and 4!d
DavidStern: South should bid 4!S here
DavidStern: Shape and heart fit all look good
DavidStern: If he doesn't he will probably have another chance over 4!D
eggy: but will it encourage West to save?
eggy: "save"
DavidStern: West still has to pick !ds
DavidStern: Stole the pot for at leats 10 imps
eggy: Doesn;t have an entry though
eggy: to get diamonds wrong that is
DavidStern: Don't like the finesse missing K-8-5-4
DavidStern: When the 8 is led
eggy: so maybe only 8 imp
HenryB: I expect 3 down from here
cywerz: its down 3 now?
sybarra: what does Stein lead now?
sybarra: ruff/sluff?
HenryB: a !d
cywerz: !d is safe, but not easy to see?
vugraph117: this is probly raped tommy says
cywerz: lol
HenryB: no, but a !s is suicidal, and a !h looks wrong
cywerz: well done by Stein
petter3: hva mente tomm med 4 hjerter?
cywerz: pass by Stian looked a bit strange
->petter3: sier det var for kontrakt
cywerz: should be a known doubleton with Tommy after pass on 3!d
eggy: yes very, but might have prevented the "save"
cywerz: the save that wasnt a save
eggy: back to -2!
sybarra: or not
eggy: back to -3
eggy: ah ha - all is explained
DavidStern: Win Heart king and play spade
eggy: or not?
vugraph117: yes
vugraph117: sorry
HenryB: np
star4: -4 riktig?
willyt59: gikk han virkelig 4 bet? :)
sybarra: we knew this room would not be "quiet"
->star4: ja
->willyt59: ja
willyt59: ok :)
DavidStern: quiet what quite volatile?
HenryB: so 3!h and one of each to lose at least -- probably down 2 at the end
sybarra: for a push
HenryB: for no swing or an imp to the Farmers
DavidStern: Nadal at 5/1 seems fancifully good odds
cywerz: 1 down
HenryB: only one
cywerz: 1 imp for farmers
DavidStern: I can't believe the oddsmakers rate him as a 16% chance of winning
HenryB: so little or so much?
eggy: er ...
cywerz: oh man
HenryB: now 2 down
cywerz: bridge isnt that difficult, is it?
HenryB: apparently
sybarra: how did "we" do that
eggy: after a weekend of schnapps, it gets harder
sybarra: and beer, and wine,and......
cywerz: these men should be used to that...
DavidStern: Tablecam..... http://www.nordpol.no/cam.htm
sybarra: this could be much more lively at this table
DavidStern: Certainly higher
sybarra: need an "in tempo" 5 !D
cywerz: 4 imps for the skilled?
HenryB: Or one for the Farmers
cywerz: 2 in that case
HenryB: right
DavidStern: I am specualting -100 so one imp to Farmers
DavidStern: 2
cywerz: now -3
cywerz: no
DavidStern: Great switch
DavidStern: 4 IMPS to the Skilled
sybarra: th farmers have 3 boards for the comeback
cywerz: a push at best
eggy: probably will make 2D, 1S and 5 clubs, but not a gimme anymore
cywerz: must play the 9 for a push
cywerz: still a squeeze chance if Espen doesnt play !d
cywerz: then no squeeze
HedyG: hello everybody:) joined for last 2 boards
eggy: Hi hedy
HedyG: re:))
cywerz: Hi Hedy
HedyG: hi Kenneth:)
DavidStern: Hi H
eggy: Looks a tough call for the farmers now
HedyG: and David:)
sybarra: hello Hedy
HedyG: and Shirley:)))))
DavidStern: 2 boards 11 IMPS not so tough
cywerz: I got a question about what I mean by "push"
HedyG: push it away:)
cywerz: that is a draw board, 0 imps for both
eggy: Depends if you've looked at the movie :¬)
HedyG: 2!d=?
DavidStern: 4+/3+ Majors ??????
eggy: multi? :¬)
HedyG: Baard is this correct? really?
cywerz: probably a "state of the match"-Multi
HedyG: not fair to do this to pd who has to play it
cywerz: not the right decision at this board
HedyG: 2!h shows a hand that is negative in !h
DavidStern: Am NOW prepared to concede hard for Farmers
vugraph117: week 5 card 7-9 multi
HedyG: better run to 3!c
eggy: This could be a captain Oates moment for South (if it weren't the summer)
eggy: If it's multi, after South didn;t bid 2S, North must run surely
cywerz: draw trumps...
HedyG: S wont run, he has no reason to doubt his pds opening bid, but N knows!
cywerz: then we have some excitement for board 20
DavidStern: What does 2!d mean that prompted South to bid 2!H
HedyG: its a multi
HedyG: Baard said 5+ major
HedyG: 7-9 points
cywerz: unless there is a really big swing on the last board, the skilled proved their skills
HedyG: with a little bit of help from their friends:)
cywerz: bidding like this with 3 cards in the other major doesnt make sense if you ask me
HedyG: even without 3 cards in the other major:(
cywerz: true, but even worse with
cywerz: only 500
cywerz: 23 imps behind, we need a 4000 swing!
DavidStern: 23IMPS looks a big ask
sybarra: this is last board of a wonderful weekend
DavidStern: No 3500 would see a tie
HedyG: lolol
cywerz: only 3500 for extra boards
DavidStern: Federer won toss elected to serve
sybarra: Thanks very much to our wonderful operator Baard Riisnes. Well done!
eggy: well given that the potential on this hand is limited, perhaps Stian was justified with his rather wild effort
DavidStern: Thanks Shakespeare
HedyG: gooooooooo Federer!!!!
sybarra: Thanks to my co-commentators-who have provided great insight and thoughtful comments: David Stern, Kenneth Syversen, Henry Bethe and Steve Eginton.
cywerz: congratulations Skilled ones!
sybarra: and the many others who made this possible
cywerz: ty2
sybarra: Finally thanks to John-Eldar Pedersen, "The Farmer", the host and the person who has organized this broadcast and brought us back to his home in Framen.
HedyG: we !H the Farmen Invitational!
sybarra: We do so appreciate this opportunity !H
cywerz: I got a comment on the 1NT opening
sybarra: thx of course to the specs hope you have enjoyed it also :))
cywerz: I didnt see the problem untill...
cywerz: 14 and "decent" 5 card suit...
DavidStern: What is their 'scheduled' range
HedyG: 15-17
cywerz: (14)15-17 probably
DavidStern: I think with such sharp values and five card suit - perfectly acceptable
cywerz: lol
eggy: I agree - I certainly wouldn't open a weak NT with it
HedyG: and made it
DavidStern: I play 12-14 NT and would upgrade this to 15 so I suppose the reverse should be true
eggy: so at least a little Pyrrhic victory - how we are regretting hand 19 now!
HedyG: :))
cywerz: matter of style and agreements as allways
DavidStern: So 11 is the final margin - certainly winable by the Farmers
sybarra: thx all again,
HedyG: thank you all!
eggy: Thanks all - great fun as always
DavidStern: Night all enjoy the Tennis, cycling and World Cup Football tonight
cywerz: thx everyone
eggy: Bye everyone
cywerz: hope u enjoyed
HedyG: and some bridge too!
sybarra: pls. tell john how much we enjoyed this!H
sybarra: Baard....your job
cywerz: and for the bluffers out there
cywerz: look at board 19 and consider not bluffing again
lawyersrs: 1h
HedyG: lol
cywerz: without that, the farmers might have won
vugraph117: Bye all from Farmen, tx for joining us h!h!h
HedyG: rather lose by 11 than by 1
cywerz: bye everyone at farmen
HedyG: bye Baard
sybarra: thx Baard, hugs to all :))